Air Force VS Navy question for the day…
Could a Stealth jet fighter, such as the F-22 Raptor (below), sneak-up on a modern U.S. Destroyer?
Comparing the photos above and below, it seems like a pretty easy answer…right?
Welp, not so fast.
The answer is interesting because it involves much more than just “Firepower”.
Next 3-pics for a quick visual reference on 2 of the Navy’s main modern-day Destroyers.
Let’s use the U.S. Navy’s primary Guided Missile ships, the Arleigh Burke-Class (above) and it’s newer Zumwalt-Class destroyers (below) for a comparison to the World’s most bad-A** Stealth Fighter, the F-22 Raptor.
Building the new hull design on the futuristic Zumwalt-Class. It is the longest Destroyer’s ever built by the U.S. Navy.
Yet, as you can see, the pencil-thin width along with the edges/angles on the Zumwalt-Class Destroyer gives it a stealth-ish shape that helps lower its radar “blip”.
Now we need an expert for the question,
“Can the F-22 SNEAK-UP ON a modern U.S. Destroyer?”
The following comes from a retired sailor named Ross Hall.
Mr. Ross isn’t just any guy on a ship, he was a Naval Officer on a Nuclear powered Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carrier.
Mr. Hall’s answer is not only detailed but more importantly…
…it gives you a feel for simple FACT about our Navy, that is over-looked when it comes to how COMPLEX it is to WORK in the Middle of an Ocean.
“Several answers address the detectability of the aircraft (F-22), and correctly point out the stealthiness of the aircraft.
However, “sneaking-up” on, and attacking a combatant is NOT an easy task.”
“Consider the problem from the perspective of the F-22.”
“First … the ocean is really, really BIG, and ships are difficult to find (especially if they are trying to hide).”
Problem #1 RANGE
“The F-22 has a combat radius of 460 NM. Therefore, if the aircraft has precise targeting information, it can cover a pretty good distance from shore.”
“However, if it has to spend time searching, developing a tactical picture, and targeting (the ship)…”
“…then range and time on station will quickly become a problem.”
Obviously, a B-2 stealth bomber would be a better option, with a range of 6,000 NM+ using internal fuel.
(B-2 Stealth bomber “Spirit” above)
Problem #2 Detecting a Naval ship.
This “find a needle in the hey-stack” issue becomes more complex.
“Let’s assume the Raptor has a fabulous radar, (meaning) that it can detect ships out to 200 NM, and…”
“…let’s further assume that the Raptor’s Electronic Warfare (EW) capabilities allow it to detect radars (and other emitters) at similar ranges.
“Seems like a relatively easy problem (detecting EW)… but,
If the combatant (enemy ship) is ANTICIPATING an ATTACK, it will STOP emitting!”
Enter our Navy’s Electronic Warfare system (EW) known as “Slick-32”.
“Now the Raptor is looking at a bunch of radar blips in the area where he expects his target.
Which one is the target?
Which one is the container ship?”
“Believe me, this is a huge problem. On several occasions, I have participated in missions where our patrol aircraft has been sent to a rendezvous position with a carrier battle group. When the group is not emitting, it sometimes takes 30–60 minutes to locate them (using our radar).”
“Once detected on radar, it is still difficult to tell which ships you are looking at.
Even from 10,000 feet and 10-miles, about the only visual discrimination is “big” or “small”.
And that’s without clouds.”
Problem #3 Raptor’s WEAPONs
“Let’s get real. The Raptor is not optimized for attacking a ship. Even assuming it can load anti-ship missiles, it has a 2,000 lb internal load capacity.”
“Let’s generously assume they can launch a couple of Harpoon-type missiles.”
As soon as the combatant detects a targeting radar, then seeker activation (plus a blossoming radar picture), the ship will immediately act to engage the incoming missiles…
“And then, probably engage the aircraft (F-22 Raptor).”
“Two F-22 in-bound missiles should not be a problem.”
REALITY of the QUESTION
F-22 VS modern Destroyer…
“An air attack on a modern destroyer (such as an Arleigh Burke or Zumwalt class) by a single stealth aircraft…”
“…even a B-2 (Stealth bomber ABOVE)
has a LOW probability of success.”
“Prior intelligence is required.”
“Targeting information and verification from other platforms (e.g. submarines) or sensors (e.g. satellite) may be required.”
“An air attack on a modern destroyer would require enough threats to overcome the ship’s defenses.”
“The use of stealth aircraft may allow release of missiles at shorter ranges, but such an attack will require extensive coordination (which will likely be difficult to conceal).”
It’d take a LOT to “Take the Ship”.
“Lastly, it should be pointed out that new ship designs, such as the Zumwalt-Class (Above/Below), incorporate reduced radar signatures.”
“This further exacerbates the detection, targeting, and acquisition problem for air attacks.”
ABOVE, the new stealthy Zumwalt-Class.
Check-out more articles by Ross Hall – Tactical Action Officer on Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carrier (Retired)
What I like most about this article is that it’s NOT “who wins”.
The F-22 is made air-superiority and it’s got that.
Our Navy operates out in the Ocean which is 70% of the Earth. There ain’t no where to hide or go…people give Sailors sh*t…you become a dot in the middle of NOTHING; that’s what our U.S. Navy dominates. -Rick
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